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Viewing System using Mac 
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Post Viewing System using Mac
Hi Guys, excuse the dumb question..... I would like to use my mac as my main PC on the day of events and have a viewing station set up.

Can I still do this using the Wyse type units to access a browser, or would my main PC need to also be running windows of some description?

If anyone has done it this way, is there a definitive set of instructions for setting this up?

Again, excuse my technical naivety!


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Alan

What sort of events are you talking about here?

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Hi Paul,

It's Balls/Functions etc.

I can put my hands on some Thin Clients (Compaq, WindowsCE) and monitors, but would love to keep using my Mac as my main capturing/processing machine.

Till now this has been my main way of working but would now love to set up some kind of viewing system to stop bottle necks.

Am I right in saying that the Thin Clients would just read an IP address from the mac, or is this not a compatible way at all?
I am just using Aperture at the moment, but would consider Event View or any other alternatives?


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If it's for social functions I wouldn't recommend going down the viewing station route (too many reasons to list why not). The main 2 are you will lose money, not only in buying extra equipment you don't need, but also in sales at the event.

You would better off networking two laptops together and having 2 permanently manned (or ladied) print stations.

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Alan,

EventView has certainly been used on a Mac but with changes in both JAlbum and Mac OS I cant say.

If you are running a web based viewing system then your assumptions would also be correct.

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I'm going to agree and disagree with Paul here :D

For black tie type events my experience has been that bare viewing stations (not manned) will cost sales. Manned viewing stations (one sales person to 2 or 3 stations) will increase sales.

A significant part of the sales process is the interaction between the client and salesperson. I train sales people to make the assumption that the viewer is also a buyer. So, when greeting them instead of asking if they need any help the salesperson will open with "Hi, lets find your images and sort out your order". Immediately the salesperson is being helpful (sorting out their images) and also setting the expectation that the client will purchase. It is then far easier to start discussing print sizes and purchase options as the assumption has been made that they will buy. The client at this point has to explicitly say 'No' to purchasing rather than the salesperson pursuing a 'Yes'.

At some events (were we cannot set up viewing stations) we have also printed a selection of images (usually one of each couple) and put them in mounts. This gives the salesperson something to work with and opens up the three for the price of two deals (if we are running it) with the phrase 'Ok, we have this one, lets get you two more'. We find wastage is very low when we do this. This works well at Masonic type events were you photograph, they go to eat and then come out after the speeches to view their pictures.

I do a number of events were viewing stations would not work but I also do quite a few were viewing stations are key to the success of the event from our perspective (making money).

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I think viewing stations can certainly be useful, but as pointed out totally unmanned systems can be catastrophically useless! In answer to the original question, the connection between viewing station and server using event view is platform independent as long as the viewing station can view a web page, and the server can run a webserver.


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john wright wrote:

For black tie type events my experience has been that bare viewing stations (not manned) will cost sales. Manned viewing stations (one sales person to 2 or 3 stations) will increase sales.

John


John, forgive me, but I'm bit confused, you seem to have contradicted yourself here.

I wouldn't recommend having any screen or monitor unmanned.

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O.k., something to think about.

I thought the viewing stations might help with the occassional bottlenecks I've experienced a couple of times.

I tend to shoot and my assistant does the sales process part, occasionally I have been shooting faster than he can cope and this has result in queues of folk waiting to view/buy their images.

Some go away and then come back...some don't!

Maybe two manned stations is the way to go, but then I was trying to avoid a second assistant, unless of course it was a larger more profitable gig.

From a sales poimt of view though you are probably right John, as one of the girls I've used before was AMAZING at convincing women they looked better than they did in the photos!!! :lol:


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Alan

I will guarantee you that the extra salesperson will pay for themselves and more in one night. In Mike's print analogy, if you pay the extra print person £50 that is 5 prints they need to sell to pay for themselves.

Think about when you are out shopping, how many times have you bought extra items when you have had a salesperson talking you through their offers etc. And then compare that to shopping when you are left to browse by yourself. If you are not quite happy you will walk away.

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