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 Post subject: Outdoor events
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:33 pm 
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I cover a lot of motor sport both cars and bikes in sunny Scotland, where the sun always shine.....lol Previously I’ve sold my images by canvassing the paddock and selling from my website, though this year I'm thinking about progressing to on site printing etc.

The first thought is accommodation, ideally I would like a trailer but the money won’t stretch that far, so I was thinking about a commercial grade gazebo,

I found this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWAX:IT" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and would appreciate any comments from folk who have experience of outdoor work.

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 Post subject: Re: Outdoor events
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:35 pm 
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My experience of that style of gazrbo was that the wife spent more time holding it down and stopping it blowing away than selling photo's! And it wasn't that windy - they just attract it.

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 Post subject: Re: Outdoor events
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:00 pm 
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Thanks Richard for your reply, I have heard tht is the problem, and the race circuit is at the top of a hill in sunny, calm Scotland., so it might not be the best opion.

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 Post subject: Re: Outdoor events
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:11 pm 
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I Have a Pro grade Black & Silver Double Gazebo for occasional use, a few times a year

I was advised to purchase some (4-6) ratcheting straps and 20" Stakes and a big mallet

I have not had any issues with the Gazebo with the straps in place however whilst doing a practice set up in my garden i broke a leg when it caught the wind,

luckily the guy I bought it from was the UK supplier and replaced the fractured leg bracket out of sympathy (phew)

If you do get a gazebo GET SOME RATCHET STRAPS !!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Outdoor events
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:15 pm 
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Thanks, I was thinking about straps and 25ltr water carriers to use as weights as some of the padock is on tarmac. I guess I could also tie it to the car.

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 Post subject: Re: Outdoor events
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:04 pm 
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Buy a trailer! Buy cheap buy twice.

How about this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EXHIBITION-TRAILE ... 462wt_1165

or this :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 600wt_1165

Both on the right side of budget and a good starter without risking the house.

Once you've used a trailer you will wonder what made you consider a tent. Plus you can be setup within minutes on site rather than an hour to setup and dismantle at each end of the day. I am that convinced that I am just about to buy a larger 20ft trailer to add to my existing 12ft trailer. Trailers can have their own storage issues of course plus you need a vehicle to tow them that is capable of dealing with variable terrain. There is no perfect option, just what works for you. Others of course recommend a custom fitted van.


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 Post subject: Re: Outdoor events
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:28 pm 
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The Gazebo is not to be totally discounted although I totally agree that there are better alternatives but these come at a price,

I think if you have the money and the facilities to get the Trailer off the road the trailer is deffo the best route, after of course a fully kitted out van, money & storage maybe the clincher,

a £200+ gazebo will give a good idea on outside events & be profitable in the 1st couple of events and if the next event is 12 months away it will not be in the way too much and not advertising to the locals its contents, or the contents of your house whilst your away...

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 Post subject: Re: Outdoor events
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:50 pm 
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We've had a similar post before and I find myself disagreeing yet again with some of the advice offered here.

This is how mis-information is spread, when people offer horror stories of their experiences and then go on to offer impractical advice off topic to the original question posed.

Buy the right Gazebo and it isn't a "Tent", it won't blow away in the wind and it doesn't take hours to put up or take down.

In choosing the right on you want to select one that light enough to transport but is heavy enough to be stable in a light wind. You can't have it both ways here.
The better ones offer several ways to increase the stability on higher winds, from simply pegging the feet into the ground or using metal/water weights, to a ratchet strap at each corner.
You won't need 20'' steaks to strap it to, you simply use between 1-4 corkscrew steaks which are around 15'' long. You can tether a hot air balloon from these without a worry.
Mine also has a total of 4 steal bars which I can connect from leg to leg to stiffen the whole structure or use them to attach Velcro boards, hook on tables etc.

The one shown on E-bay was purchased by my kid's gym club to use in summer shows. Last Halloween we used it to BBQ from and when it rained, the rain came through the roof as a fine mist. Not too good if you want to keep your powder dry!

After many months of looking myself, I came across the perfect solution when an European farmers market came to my town one summer.
I got speaking to one of the stall holders and he gave me a walk around his. As well as climbing it and hanging off the internal structure to prove it's strength, he offered to show me how easy it was to pack away when he finished that afternoon.
I was impressed but feared I might be looking at spending £2000+ for it, which would have been too much.

I ended up buying the 3x4.5mtr "Instaframe" from these people http://www.nicoll-industries.co.uk/Instaframe%20Pop%20Up%20Canopies.htm

It takes two of us less than 10 mins to fully assemble including all the curtains and the same to take down.
It's as solid as a rock and the most I've ever needed on a very windy day were two ratchet straps positioned on the diagonally opposed legs.
In the summer you can raise the skirt off the floor to allow air through, but if you peg it down the thing is airtight.

I certainly don't regret my purchase and when I've done two day events I've camped overnight in it too. Saves accomodation expenses!

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 Post subject: Re: Outdoor events
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:21 am 
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Richard,

I Normally refer to my Gazebo as an Exhibition Unit rather than Gazebo as is not really the best way to describe what is in essence a great bit of kit,

My EU is the same as yours rock solid & rather heavy (i have a trolley to move it)

I have had issues with the 2 long corkscrew's on hard ground but they are better on wet ground than the spikes, either way 15' or 20" its best advised to use something rather than not, to avoid a very expensive mishap.

I have always been happy with the job my EU has done and it sits in my garage unnoticed until i need it for the next event (I only use 3-4 a year)

I'm still thinking of having one of my panels modified with an extra zip to accept the rear of my Van so I don't have to unload the printers ect

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 Post subject: Re: Outdoor events
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:37 am 
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I agree Alan, not a fan of "Gazebo" either; it does conjure an image of the £19.99 variety from B&Q.

The one I have comes double bagged (no sniggering) and has wheels. I can just about lift it off the ground so can load it myself if nobody else around to help.

I just don't want people to discount the use of a quality product when my experience (through lot's of research and buying right) has been a positive one.

As i've just about given up on the equestrian scene, mine gets used three/four times a year now, but I will keep it for just such occasions.

Horses for courses spring to mind!

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